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Title: Newer Genetic Info Adds Little to Predicting Breast Cancer Category: Health News Created: 3/17/2010 6:10:00 PM Last Editorial Review: 3/18/2010

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A moment of Clarity. Some DTCG is not bad.


Ok,

Here is the G-d’s honest truth. Not all SNP/DTCG companies are bad. What do I mean by bad?

Not all SNP/DTCG companies misrepresented that which is not medically useful as medically useful.

I look at Pathway and Counsyl for example. Fast followers looking to say what they do and mean what they say.

Some of these DTCG tests could be clinically relevant and useful. The problem I have, is that there is no point at which I can say, “Hey I just want the clinically relevant stuff!” No ear wax please.

I need that as a clinician. If I want a huge panel of say CYP450 tests, where do I go? there are some labs that do this and charge and arm and a leg. One company, who I used charged the patient thousands of dollars because insurance wouldn’t pick it up.

That cannot ever happen again.

With the addition of these tests with some clinical value, there must be a value add of inexpensive and RAPID TAT (Turn Around time)

A classic example is my last post. Provided these tests become validated clinically, in a patient who can’t give me her Gail risk information (tough not to, but it could be a real case) I would use that other panel

The same is true for BRCA founder mutations. Provided you won’t drop it in some google database that they get served up mastectomy ads, some patients are afraid of needles and that is a barrier.

There are some very good things here. These good things are getting drowned out by some very bad things.

We can work together if you are willing to bend.


The lack of really effective clinical utility and the existence of commercial interests increases the confusion though. It’s hard to sell something that is interesting, “fun”(?), quite expensive, but not actually that useful to the majority right now. Hard to sell means sometimes over the top marketing.”

What medicine cannot tolerate is Over the Top Marketing. It leads to inaccurate statements. This is something extremely forbidden in certain states. In fact, some states don’t allow advertising to patients at all, or there laws are so strict you couldn’t say anything than

“Dr Murphy, accepting new patients, take insurance”

Why is this? It is to prevent false claims and promises. Doctors can’t make money back guarantees. They can’t make statements which are not based on fact in advertising. A lot of companies in a rush to get out young science and feed the hype cycle for grants and whatever have been all too guilty of this hype.

So when I get a comment from one of my readers who says (paraphrased)

“Hey all this bashing you do on DTCG is making us in the science end of the SNP reseach look bad”

It prompted me to say, hey, I wouldn’t have to throw so much cold water on it if it weren’t being hyped so much by DTCG…….

So I guess my point is simple.

Hey DTCG, your opportunity is to leverage your amazing platforms to launch medical services, TO and WITH physicians.

Keep the nonmedical exactly that, NONMEDICAL

Keep the Medical EXACTLY that, MEDICAL

People can benefit by knowing their 2D6/2C19/2C9/VKORC1.

But there are some hurdles to be overcome

1. How can I trust your results?
You have started by enlisting or creating CLIA certified labs, that is a good start. Maybe FDA cert would be nice. Not needed, but nice. There currently is only AmpliChip that is FDA approved….Would like others.

2. How can I know your interpretation is correct?
By using board certified molecular pathologists, I can get a comfortable feel for the fact that the results have been vetted by your specialist. This is muy importante!

3. How can I integrate the results into my EMR/PHR/etc.?
This is going to be super important. How can I save these results linked to patient care? Sure, some would pull paper and put it in the chart, others would prefer a pull in and link. You have to think how to do this.

4. What if the interpretation changes?
Will you take responsibility to contact Either the ordering physician or patient when a result changed? This will be important as we learn more about the nature of these genetic changes.

Doctor’s rely on these 4 things from most labs that they use. The depend on these services to be provided professionally and accurately.

These 4 things are EXTREMELY hard to do. But NEED to be done if you really want to be a part of the medical community. But even if you don’t, I think your customers deserve this sort of validation and service. Don’t you?
Take the jump, create a medical arm. Work with us.

The Sherpa Says: This is what is needed. Medicinally used DTCG that is “Allowed” to be of clinical use. A new Terms of Service, just for doctors, with a validation process that is transparent. And a Marketing process which is truthful.

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SNPs for breast cancer risk? It Depends.

I hold in my hot little hands a copy of the NEJM, March 18th edition. In it there is an article which isn’t even released yet.


Entitled
“Performance of Common Genetic Variants in Breast-Cancer Risk Models”

Remember when we did this for heart disease risk? FAIL WHALE…..

Do you think it will happen again?

The Study

10 common genetic variants


I had to create a couple of pages on SNPedia for this list FYI…..

The Methods:
Cases and controls-WHI, ACS CPSII Nutrition Cohort, Nurses Health Study, Prostate/Lung/Colorectal/Ovarian Cancer Screening Trial, and Polish Breast Cancer Study.

Cases-Woman who had received diagnosis of invasive breast cancer.

Risk Models Used-A hybrid of the Gail model…..I.E. Not exactly the Gail Model.
1. First degree relatives with breast cancer
2. Age at Menarche
3. Age at first live birth
4. Number of Breast Biopsies

They acknowledge that they were unable to get atypical hyperplasia and Mammographic density. Both of which have improved Gail.

So, This Gail is a little hobbled and not the best predictive model…….

The studied models- 5 logistic regression models
I don’t have the supplementary tables and methods yet.

The nongenetic model-Gail Model
The Demographic/Genetic Variant Count Model-included number of alleles.
The Demographic/Genetic Individual Variant-Accounted for individual effects of each SNP
The Inclusive Model-Gail, Genetics Demographics
The Demographic Model
And Random….

When we do these sorts of statistical analyses we look for a couple of things.

A. Number of people reclassified and how?
B. The Area Under the ROC Curve


Results-

1. The Inclusive Model Yielded and AUC of 61.8%
2. The Nongenetic Model yielded an AUC of 58%
3. The Genetic Individual Variant Yielded an AUC of 59.7%
4. The Genetic Variant Count Yielded an AUC of 58.8%
5. Breast Biopsy BY ITSELF Yielded an AUC of 56.2%

That is a 3.8% difference in Yield from Genes and without Genes integrated into the weaker Gail Model.

Lastly, they asked. Well, does this Inclusive Model do a good job of discrimination of High risk vs. low risk.

The Answer- It determines lower risk better than Gail. It does not determine higher risk better.

The authors of this study have stated that

“As in Diabetes and cardiovascular disease, the addition of the common SNPs added little to the predictive value of the clinical models. On the basis of theoretical models, Gail has shown that increases in the AUC similar to those observed here and not sufficiently large to improve meaningfully the identification of women who might benefit from tamoxifen prophylaxis or screening mammography”

Take Home

The addition of these factors only creates a minimal statistical increase that is of no useful clinical benefit.

The Sherpa Says: If the press says “gene tests fail to improve risk assessment” You can be assured that the DTCG industry is no longer the darlings. If instead they say “Improvement in risk model” well, then you have chance to woo them back! It Depends…….

How can MDVIP use Navigenics Test for Medicine?

I have been harping on this say what you mean. Say what you do. Theme lately.


I am a board certified doctor who practices personalized medicine. I see patients and apply the principles or pharmacogenomics, risk prediction and prevention tailored to each individual patient. I do this by taking a 3 generation pedigree, using current clinical risk models and pharmacogenomic or other genetic tests when indicated. That’s me.

I have this nagging pain about MDVIP, Ed Goldman and Navigenics.

Some MDVIP members are using Navigenics tests for medical risk prediction. Navigenics is ok with this because hey, they’re doctors.


The contents of our Site, including any risk estimates or other reports generated by the Services (collectively, “Your Report“) and any other information, data, analyses, editorial content, images, audio and video clips, hyperlinks and references (collectively, “Content“), are for informational purposes only and are not intended to substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment.

The part I want to focus on is “Are for informational purposes only and are not intended to substitute for professional medical advice, diagnosis or treatment”

It seems to me that this will be the more popular language in a Terms of Service for DTCG.
Notice that nowhere does it say, “This report is not intended to diagnose or treat”

I think that while it is nice to not say that, when in fact people are using it to diagnose, it is even goofier to say that it is not intended to substitute for a professional’s diagnosis. Ok, so are you saying

1. This is not to be used for diagnosis/medical advice
2. This is to be used for diagnosis, but the professional’s diagnosis trumps ours
3. This test is meant to be used by professionals to aid them in diagnosis and treatment

I am really confused here. Is this a medical test or not. Just come right out and say it!

The Sherpa Says: Say what you do, do what you say you do. Isn’t that what the Common Framework of Principles is About?

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